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Bad Beat stories no more

I will no longer post my depressing bad beat downswings on this forum. I have come to realize that it can be annoying to others who are subjected to reading it. After reading about others who have entered big buy in tournaments ranging from 1k to 3k and min cashing or busting , it makes my downswings seem microscopic in comparison. Therefore i wont subject you to my childish volatile outbursts from time to time. My goal is to listen to each and every CLP podcast twice. I think i will get maximum benefit in skill aspect . It will require many hrs but i am up for the challenge
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  • FuzzypupFuzzypup Posts: 2,287Subscriber
    edited February 2017
    Poker is not an easy game and the swings are redonkulous.

    The reason why it seems like you have way more bad streaks than good streaks is because of how you play. Good players make the right folds when beat, at times are faced with multiple opponents that have combined outs far greater than when you isolate one opponent and nail him.

    I rarely have a fantastic night. It is not uncommon to have a shitty one.

    Most of my sessions are slow grinds of victory with the occasional big pot I scoop. One lost big pot a night can mean the difference of 2 buy ins: the one you lost, and the one you didn't win.

    In 2014 I lost a series of 7+ huge pots in a row ahead. $1500, $2000, $1750, bam one after the other. I ended the summer frustrated and -$7000 @ 2/5. Which affected more of my game in mistakes.

    So I feel ya.

    What stakes are you playing at the moment may I ask?
    How much do you have set aside for it?
    Rake?
    Average stack buy in?
    What days and time do you play?
  • nofriends333 Posts: 874Troll
    I rarely play because of my work schedule so i am limited to maybe 4 to 6 days per month being off on sat sun. I am not a hop skip away from casino but more like 90 min so the gas tolls are a bitch as well. My biggest problem is not having a bankroll put aside which is essential to absorb the losses . I was thinking of 3k as a starting bankroll for $1 $2 cash and see how it goes from that point considering i dont play that often . I was buying in for 40 to 50BB which i know is way too low but you will be surprised how i made that last in a $1 $2 NL. If it were limit (which i would never play) that buy in amt might last me an entire day
  • neverlearn2 Posts: 2,804Subscriber
    Have you considered online?
  • nofriends333 Posts: 874Troll
    i played a bit online awhile back but its just not the same as live. However i think playing online would probably improve my game dramatically because i get to see a ton more hands than playing live . I would think that the online players who play live have a huge edge when they do play live because of the volume they are accustomed to
  • ThehammahThehammah Posts: 7,083SubscriberProfessional
    well since you think im a crazy mentally ill degen. just won $4500 in two sessions.

    gotta luv proper meds! also note I won $3000 im jan and about +10,000 for last three months in 2016.

    yep im a koo koo degen :wink:
  • nofriends333 Posts: 874Troll
    edited February 2017
    Thehammah said:
    well since you think im a crazy mentally ill degen. just won $4500 in two sessions.


    gotta luv proper meds! also note I won $3000 im jan and about +10,000 for last three months in 2016.

    yep im a koo koo degen :wink:
    Apologize for the insults . I am not in your league as of yet as far as beating the game but nice run anyhow . On another note bragging about your solid run does not put one red cent in my pocket. Enjoy the heater for it can come tumbling down on you like a ton of bricks

  • RecreationalRogerRecreationalRoger Posts: 752Subscriber
    Thehammah said:
    well since you think im a crazy mentally ill degen. just won $4500 in two sessions.

    gotta luv proper meds! also note I won $3000 im jan and about +10,000 for last three months in 2016.

    yep im a koo koo degen :wink:
    Glad you broke out of that slump you were in hammah!
  • nofriends333 Posts: 874Troll
    She thinks she is up but overall shes either down or broke even Some people make themselves believe what they want to believe
  • FuzzypupFuzzypup Posts: 2,287Subscriber
    @nofriends33

    #1 don't buy in for 50-60bbs. Buy in for the max amount. When you buy in short, especially at 1/2, you are asking NOT to make money. Consider if you get $100 in the middle all in vs an opponent in a 50/50 scenario AK vs TT. The rake will eat all your profits. How much you buy in for directly and enormously impacts your winrate.

    #2 if the tables are short you are never going to beat the rake. You need table hop until you get a table with 100bb stacks. At least 1/2 the table I would say.

    #3 if you are driving 90m to go play then play for a long session like 8-10 hours otherwise it is pointless. You are spending $50-$90 in gas + wear and tear + tolls.

    #4 if #1-#3 are not within the realm of possibilities then play online. Go to Ignition Poker. Probably your best bet. There are no HUDs, no PT4, no HM3, everyone is anonymous. You won't have some reg sit down and collect data on you. It plays more like live play.

    Seriously if you don't take the online route and will not get better fast. Playing 120-180 hands a month isn't going to improve your game much. I have played for 13 years, over 1,000,0000 hands online, a huge amount of hours at the casino, and I am no Bart Hanson. In 2015 is when I started seeing serious results of excellent winrates. It took a lot of reading, watching videos, and doing my own homework on combinatorics, mathematics, finding new plays, taking notes on the live players, etc.

    If I was you I would just focus on having fun since your time is very limited. It won't be as stressful. When you find the time to put serious effort into it then take it seriously. Or if you like it that much find an easier job and move to Florida :D
  • nofriends333 Posts: 874Troll
    I would buy in for 100BB cant do more than that. Gas both ways total around $12 tolls $7 round trip . As far as math pot odds are about as far as i go in that dept. As far as online i can play on poker stars WSOP Borgata ACR and Party poker so no need for those other sites you mentioned because i might not get payed or wait forever . The sites i just mentioned i know i will get paid . I wholeheartedly agree with amount of volume and hands online as opposed to live . Play online is probably the only way i can get better. I watch videos religiously and read alot . Remember i am only playing for a little less than 2yrs but learning a little bit every day
  • FuzzypupFuzzypup Posts: 2,287Subscriber
    You are underestimating your costs. Each mile you drive roughly translates into 50c a mile of wear and tear, gas, tires, oil changes etc.

    Ignition pays. I have been on Bovada/Ignition for years now. Never late always pays.

    You will get eaten alive on PS. Here is the deal. You might get regs on Ignition but they have no real HUD and all data is lost once you leave the table. The one you can use basically simulates reads live. So you get an idea of how they play but it isn't detailed for 10,000s of hands.

    Last that I know of.... PS allows full HUDs with databases. The software pretty much tells you exactly where a player is weak, strong, and exploitable. What this means is that a decent reg is now much better than he is because the software tells him.

    For example it will tell him on what position you raise with X and can highlight if it is too loose or too tight. It can tell them if you are CBing too much, too little on every street. There are a lot of regs. Ignition is softer. Just giving you heads up on it. I would do lots of research on what is allowed and what isn't.

    When I played FTP it was full HUD with all statistics and data mining. They might not have data mining anymore but playing with someone long enough they will know your game. So take care.
  • nofriends333 Posts: 874Troll
    edited February 2017
    Not too worried about PS because i am limited to one state player pool . I am not playing in the same player pool with foreign countries including Canada. I dont think WSOP uses HUDS ACR not sure? HUDS should be deemed illegal They should have banned them long before they banned online poker . Please dont take this personal but you make poker more difficult than it actually is making it seem as though you need to study like study for masters or doctorate . The math ? I dont do math sorry . Just play my game listen to the pods and thats really all i have time for
  • FuzzypupFuzzypup Posts: 2,287Subscriber
    Poker is like chess, easy to learn, hard to master (hard to make money at). So just enjoy it for fun and don't stress over it. Maybe you make $5 an hour, maybe $10 an hour.

    BTW I did study it like a masters program.
  • nofriends333 Posts: 874Troll
    I will play you chess if you like I used to be a master at it
  • FuzzypupFuzzypup Posts: 2,287Subscriber
    edited February 2017
    I suck at chess lol

    I meant I study poker like I am studying for a masters
  • nofriends333 Posts: 874Troll
    I will say if you study poker like study for masters you can sit right down at a poker table and make money as opposed to others that have to get the masters degree then look for a job
  • FuzzypupFuzzypup Posts: 2,287Subscriber
    I make more money per hour than in what I used to do. But that field has gone to the shitter.
  • nofriends333 Posts: 874Troll
    9-5 is like working for Satan. Working a federal city or state job is like working for satan and his ancestors. Horrible way to earn a living . I am living proof of it Yeah you earn a steady salary but the stress that comes with the territory is brutal.
  • BartBart Posts: 5,725AdministratorLeadPro
    edited February 2017
    nofriends333 said:
    9-5 is like working for Satan. Working a federal city or state job is like working for satan and his ancestors. Horrible way to earn a living . I am living proof of it Yeah you earn a steady salary but the stress that comes with the territory is brutal.
    What kind of federal or state job, thats 9-5 has a lot of stress in it? I always compare government jobs to casino jobs--cush city. Total monopoly over their sector, clueless middle management, and top level directors create an environment where doing the bare minimum is accepted as the norm. Have you been to the DMV, Post Office or by god the Social Security Administration?
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