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nofriends333 Posts: 882Troll
edited March 2017 in Beats, Brags, and Variance
If there is anyone out there on a serious downswing please share your stories and include length of downswing and $$ amount. It soothes my wounds when others lose because i take comfort in misery loves company. Last thing i want to hear is someone on a heater because it will only make me jealous and i am a very big sore loser

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  • neverlearn2 Posts: 2,842Subscriber
    ive lost 870 last 2 sessions at 1/3.

    last night i went for a little i got berated by a player/employer because after he shows me 44 in a 3bet pot, i smirked, and he said i had no poker etiquette. I then went on to get value owned a few times, then lost when i turn trip 6s to a FH, then lost rest to AA<77.

    but today im going to la brea tar pits with my son while my wife and daughter go watch some off broadway play, so its all good.
  • nofriends333 Posts: 882Troll
    edited March 2017
    The only bright side to yesterday was that i didnt muck a potential monster which happened to me 3x last week. As soon as i got to the table i was card dead which extended onward to the tournament. Bunch of bullshit. One older guy early 70's kept talking to the guy next to him about a relative who had quad bypass never saw it coming and how someone else went through torture with chemo and cancer and eventually died . This is one time where you can agree with the argument about using the head gear at the table. Next time i will bring it. I let it go for awhile but it started getting to me and i had to tell him to cut it . Got a cold stare which forced me later on to apologize to him . He said no apology necessary but when i found out he was referring to his wife i felt even worse
  • ohsnapzbrah Posts: 632Subscriber
    I had a -$4k February. This included losing a $2500 pot at 2/5 to a 4 outer and 3 outer with one card to come, running it twice.

    But I have hundreds of thousands of online hands proving I'm a winner, so not concerned
  • nofriends333 Posts: 882Troll
    Borgata its unheard of to run it twice unless by chance It becomes live at the borgata instead of live at the bike which will never happen Only interested in live downswings With those sneaky huds i wouldnt bother playing online except for maybe once a year so they cant get a read on my play
  • misterbasicmisterbasic Posts: 62Subscriber
    4 years ago I tilted off 3 grand playing 1/2 in one day (yes, 10 buy ins of $300 lmfao). Never again.
  • nofriends333 Posts: 882Troll
    misterbasic said:
    4 years ago I tilted off 3 grand playing 1/2 in one day (yes, 10 buy ins of $300 lmfao). Never again.
    But i assume that was before you incorporated the Berkey method into your play

  • misterbasicmisterbasic Posts: 62Subscriber
    nofriends333 said:
    misterbasic said:
    4 years ago I tilted off 3 grand playing 1/2 in one day (yes, 10 buy ins of $300 lmfao). Never again.
    But i assume that was before you incorporated the Berkey method into your play

    Waaaaay long before. Back then I was a moron who chased straight draws and flush draws on a paired board. I also did stupid stuff like limo UTG with AA trying to trap someone. Makes me cringe how bad I played lol.

  • nofriends333 Posts: 882Troll
    Its all good my man Even the pros made those same mistakes. I havent been playing more than 2yrs but i remember two summers ago i was playing at table with this young black kid who was nervously folding to every raise and had to be reminded about putting in his blinds. I was actually giving him advice on being more aggressive at the table when i myself was doing just the opposite . LOL. If anyone needed help it was yours truly but i saw this kid was so wet behind the ears and new at the game i just had to make believe i was some sort of veteran at the table and because of my age it was convincing

    Around a month ago while i was playing a tournament i saw this same kid with an avalanche of chips in front of him running over the adjacent table with confidence and authority. I tapped him on the shoulder and said "you came a long way practice pays" He remembered me and shook my hand thanking me for past advice. Maybe i should practice what i preach
    by 1themerk
  • CalgaryPokerGuy Posts: 342Subscriber
    Ironically my old thread from a year ago was recently bumped, about busting out of a huge PLO downswing. Enjoy!
  • iamallin Posts: 1,173SubscriberProfessional
    edited March 2017
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  • iamallin Posts: 1,173SubscriberProfessional
    A frind if mine plays 10 25 and higher. He is o eof the better players you will see. Very disciplined and calm. He's been on a 150k downswing in the last 3 months. That's the biggest I have heard of in live midstakes poker.

    I remember an interview with Matt berkey where he said his biggest downswing in the nosebleed games at aria has been 5M.
  • BartBart Posts: 5,917AdministratorLeadPro
    iamallin said:
    A frind if mine plays 10 25 and higher. He is o eof the better players you will see. Very disciplined and calm. He's been on a 150k downswing in the last 3 months. That's the biggest I have heard of in live midstakes poker.

    I remember an interview with Matt berkey where he said his biggest downswing in the nosebleed games at aria has been 5M.
    I wonder if your friend still think that he can obtain the hourly that he expects to make over the long term after going on that type of downswing.

    It also seems a bit silly to have the ability to go on that much of a downswing at 10-25, unless he replenished his roll by selling stock, real estate, etc. Having $150k sitting in a box doesnt seem like the best use of $$, especially since a low cost index has been up over 15% since the beginning of 2015.
  • nofriends333 Posts: 882Troll
    edited March 2017
    I could be wrong but i doubt Berkey has a wife or GF because of his poker lifestyle. No female on this planet would be able to start a family let alone get married or have kind of meaningful relationship having to deal with such tumultuous downswings. Not saying that high roller poker players do not have a social life . Of course they do but for the majority of them there is no walking down the aisle and ring on the finger . I thought Jon Little 450k downswing would be enough to send someone off the deep end but his emotions or slim and none when it comes to losing. As far as Berkey? 5 mil downswing ? WTF ? I would have jumped off the golden gate bridge months ago. Sure its great when the grass is green but when the tide turns its a rough ride. Ivey couldnt hold on to his wife after she realized that man oh man what the hell did i get myself into?
  • ThehammahThehammah Posts: 7,086Subscriber
    Bart said:
    iamallin said:
    A frind if mine plays 10 25 and higher. He is o eof the better players you will see. Very disciplined and calm. He's been on a 150k downswing in the last 3 months. That's the biggest I have heard of in live midstakes poker.

    I remember an interview with Matt berkey where he said his biggest downswing in the nosebleed games at aria has been 5M.
    I wonder if your friend still think that he can obtain the hourly that he expects to make over the long term after going on that type of downswing.

    It also seems a bit silly to have the ability to go on that much of a downswing at 10-25, unless he replenished his roll by selling stock, real estate, etc. Having $150k sitting in a box doesnt seem like the best use of $$, especially since a low cost index has been up over 15% since the beginning of 2015.
    Bart

    I think you would agree that most poker players..even higher stakes players are not the best in money management. I would hazard to guess that he did indeed have it sitting in a box ..probably because he was not declaring all of it as income and therefore could not have it in a bank or investment account.

    Yet again you bring up a very common misperception that you will save money by not declaring it when in fact in the long run you are losing money. If someone is making the majority of their income from poker you should declare all your winnings so you

    a) seems silly but paying your fare share of being a good citizen
    b) not committing a federal offense of which you can goto jail. my uncle was convicted of tax evasion and had to serve one year in jail...
    c) as legitimate earnings you can qualify for a larger loan for say a house or maybe some other investment..
    d) as legitimate earnings you can invest money in stock market or other investment.. Bart talked about this.. its not too long where you will make up for the tax on it. say for arguments sake you are paying 30% tax.. last year stocks went up 15% over long term 10% returns have been achieved.. so thats a bit less than 3 years and after that its all upside.. over 10 years 10% compounding $1000-$300 (for the tax) =$700 comes to about $1800.. so sure you would save say $300 on the initial tax but you are missing out on the additional $1100 you would have made..


  • iamallin Posts: 1,173SubscriberProfessional
    Yeah I don't know how he put in so much money.

    May be he's just bluffing me.

    Although the games he plays in are essentially 10 25 50 deep stacked.

    If you count a deep stack bullet as 200 times the max blind in play...that's 10k bullet for that game.

    He's only down 15 bullets which could certainly happen.

    My understanding was for a pro to have close to 50 deep stack bullets. The games are generally shorthanded and very aggressive at the higher stakes.
  • iamallin Posts: 1,173SubscriberProfessional
    Berkey is a beast. He plays 500 1k

    So he was on a 25 bullet downswing.
  • FuzzypupFuzzypup Posts: 2,433Subscriber
    edited January 2018
    ##My last 10 sets @ 2/5... I keep track of everything so I keep my sanity.
    Lose to draw
    Tie with AA flopping aces full with some clown XRAI air drawing dead, dead, so fucking dead.
    Lose underset
    Win vs HUGE draw
    Win vs dude drawing dead massive pot
    Win overset
    Lose to runner runner WTF are you doing calling that flop with that hand
    Tie to runner runner wheel
    Lose to runner runner
    Lose to some idiot calling 25% of his stack with baby suited connectors and flopping a flush on my set

    ##My last 10 big 12+ out draws
    Lose 7
    Win 2 - One I was up a set and the idiot checked the turn and I took the free card.

    Lose this laughable one - One of my losses came when the Button straddler checked KK in a 5 way limped pot.... no that's not a typo. I got it all in with a J T on a 9 8 3 board vs "the random straddle hand". I suspected he had a single pair hand like A9 or maybe the same SD and I was freerolling with his $275 stack. His behavior leaned on him not having a set or 2 pair. Pot was bloated and I was getting more than 1.5:1 to call. When I saw his hand the look on my face said it all.

    Needless to say December was a fucking disaster of epic proportions.
  • maphacks Posts: 2,009Subscriber
    edited January 2018
    lost about 16k in two sessions of 5-10 uncapped few days ago. yesterday was also lawl, been up 3k and ended up 3k down. again, 5-10 uncapped.

    guy called called my 4bet to 950 with QJo when I had KQo. board J 9 x x x . not that it's anything special but maybe you feel better now :D?

    BTW I would guess that Berkey probably has around 10% of his own money in play when he talks about losing 5m $$$. just like almost anyone else when it comes to highstakes.
  • FuzzypupFuzzypup Posts: 2,433Subscriber
    Makes a difference when you have an infinite bankroll. No fear.

    I came up with a new poker definition - Cataclysmic Hand Event - A player puts a committing amount of money in the pot preflop with a worse hand and gets paid when the flop comes that rarity that you flop good and he flops better.

    EXAMPLE You have AK he has 43o and the flop comes A43 after he put 35% of his stack in the middle preflop.

    I nosedived 6 buy ins in 2.5 hours between 2 sessions.... If I wasn't at a casino I would say there was cheating going on because it was that fucking ridiculous.
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