SO a lot of you here think LA games are soft or that when I talk about getting maximum value with certain holdings that "I'm nuts" because no one in their player pool would call off with just top pair.
So I have this hand that I played last night at $5-$10, however the villain in the hand is a typical $5-$5 player but appears to be slightly scared money. He bought in for $500 and his stack is up to $1500. Hero covers.
UTG limps, V1 limps UTG1. Hero raises to $60 with 5♣ 5♦ as there is a dead poster in the CO. All folded back to V1 who calls.
FLOP: K♥ 8♦ 2♥
Check, Hero bets $70, V1 calls.
TURN: A♠
Check, Hero bets $185, V1 calls.
RIVER: J♠
V1 checks..
Let's assume that villain never has a strong hand here (AK+) because of preflop and turn play. How often are you non LAers triple barreling this river? How often are you LA 5-5 players, especially at $500 capped games at Commerce triple barreling this river?
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The turn is a good barrel card for you as it hits your range harder than his and allows you to apply more pressure to V1. Once he calls his range is narrowed down to a few sticky pairs that are hanging on for dear life and some flush draws (that may have just made top pair.)
The river is a fine card to unload the clip on as again it hits your range harder than his. Also, he really can't have many strong hands here (especially after he checked 3x and limp called pre) AND you did say he appears to be scared money.
...by the title of this thread (and the first couple of lines) I guess you got called down light.
Turn - pot is 275-ish
River - pot is 645-ish
In terms of "real" money - the turn bet is the most scariest for "scared money" players. I can't speak for East coast or West coast games - but in the South, a dude calling the turn, ain't folding most river.
Let's look at ranges... on the flop, either V has a big K or a♥ draw... most likely a nutted FD since he's limping from UTG+1
So on the turn - KX ain't folding and now A♥ X× ain't folding.
The flop has no other draws... although I'd be remiss if I didn't point out the V could have Q♥ T♥!!!!! (yeah, right :lol:)
Unless Hero has a uber aggressive image with a tendency to barrel with no regard to board texture, V should be folding all 8's (except 8♥ X♥) by the turn. Although he may also have hands like Q♥ J♥ or J♥ T♥
A river bet would fold out all heart draws that don't have an Ace in them.
As played - Hero is representing a very narrow range of hands... AA, KK & AK - or air.... making a triple barrel a very polarizing bet.
In the South... if V got to the river - your 55 is toast.
Unless you have a live read that he'll fold KX and J♥ X♥ and 8♥ X♥ to a triple barrel, betting river is spew.
hmmmm....idk i think if Bart shoves we get all 1 pair hands to fold and thats what he mainly has it seems. Not sure what else gets to the river, unless he was getting sticky with KJ.
Im gonna say shove. 730 pot, we got 1185 left. we cant bet anything less IMO.
I agree his range is capped at AJ on this river. In my games (East coast) I generally not trying to get players to fold top pair on the river and I don't see players calling twice with middle pairs. I think I would use my cards to decide how often to bluff this river. Like if I have the 5 of hearts I'd check this river and if I don't I'd be more likely to bluff this river.
Also, I prefer taking a smaller sizing on a river bluff since we don't need to represent much to get a fold and we can have a wide value range in this spot. I think against tougher opponents I would be more inclined to size up on my bluffs.
I go back and forth on the sizing..