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2/5 small blind calling range vs NIT

Hey. Quick question, I'm playing 2/5. I'm trying not to be results oriented but here goes. I'm in small blind with KQo. NIT in cutoff raises to 15 with 80 bigs effective, folds to me. I don't like calling here against a NIT because I feel I'm crushed and this guy doesn't pay off much. So I fold and BB calls. I would have flopped broadway. BB flopped top and bottom pairs and NIT flopped middle set. All the chips went in on the flop. WTF? Am I suppose to be calling a NITs range here OOP? These are fairly weak tables here in Jacksonville, FL area.

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  • neverlearn2 Posts: 2,804Subscriber
    what do you think is the absolute lowest hand he is raising 15 from btn with?
  • floridadolly Posts: 11Subscriber
    edited June 2017
    NEVERLEARN2 said:
    what do you think is the absolute lowest hand he is raising 15 from btn with?
    AJ
  • Letmewin1 Posts: 1,238Member
    edited June 2017
    IMHO i think folding is best based on info you've provided.
  • neverlearn2 Posts: 2,804Subscriber
    yea if its that low then its a good fold. but it might not be that low, i mean it could, but it could also....not be.
  • nopair Posts: 350Subscriber
    The nit had a better hand than you in better position. Fold and don't give it another thought.
  • floridadolly Posts: 11Subscriber
    What if the stacks were bigger? Say 300 BB effective, does that change anything?
  • beauregard Posts: 1,592Subscriber
    floridadolly said:
    What if the stacks were bigger? Say 300 BB effective, does that change anything?
    yeah it changes a lot.
    but it's also dependent on your skills and confidence in your game
    if you're playing fit or fold, it's -EV
    but if you have no problems leading out with draws or as a bluff... or check/raising (for value or bluff) - then it's more +EV

    after I fold - I try to forget what I folded and just follow the action for information sake.
    you'll drive yourself crazy being an armchair poker player - thinking you should have called a marginal hand oop because the flop would have given you a strong hand. once it's in the muck - it's gone
  • nopair Posts: 350Subscriber
    floridadolly said:
    What if the stacks were bigger? Say 300 BB effective, does that change anything?
    Ask yourself, "did I come to the casino to play hands against nits when they have a better hand than me in better position?"

    No matter what your stack size, don't play mediocre hands against tough/tight players when they have position.

    If you can put this person on TT,JJ,QQ,KK,AA,A♠K♠, then you should fold KQ always. Don't play the other person's game. And if you absolutely can't restrain yourself from playing, play 6♠5♠, not K♠Q♥.

  • Rocketman74Rocketman74 Posts: 451Subscriber
    edited June 2017
    So.... his range from the CO is really that tight? Must be the biggest nit ever. Seems like too good of a hand to throw away to me (and I hate calling from the SB.)

    300bb deep I'm usually 3betting.
  • bingyian Posts: 90Subscriber
    I default 3! KQo against LP open from SB
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