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Gambling trouble. :) :(

I like to play the video poker machine. I have big nights playing poker, then I stop by the VP machine. I win. I lose. I have stopped playing out of frustration, so it's not having a bad night then wasting money at the machines. I'll play and think if I lose I can just go back to the poker table to get more money. Last week, I started to make a thread about this and how to stop playing other things besides poker.

Today the problem is I won big on the VP machine. This summer I won a whole lot during the WSOP, enough to have a solid bankroll to comfortably play any games I liked and it ended up getting away. Too loose. Friend lost some. Coinbase stiffed me. Next thing I know, I'm back into my roll.

I am trying to handle this differently this time. First, it's harder to play the same levels. I moved up to playing more 500NL. I had already been playing that, but not much. Playing poker, the excitement of winning has gone done. After I win 5K on a machine, the $140 pot is not as exciting. It's not like I didn't have that much money, I think it just the money coming so quickly.

The casino games are exciting. It's just a fact. The other fact is you are going to lose playing them. So, I'm trying to get ahead of it this time. I though about going to play at sites without casino for a while. I like the action at this site, but they don't block the casino if you request.

I would love some ideas from anyone who has dealt with this and found solutionss.

Comments

  • CycleV Posts: 324Subscriber
    PM sent. PLEASE stay off of poker sites and out of the casino until you talk to someone.
  • neverlearn2 Posts: 2,377Subscriber
    Jack, i may not offer the best advice on this but just telling you ill give you support if you need it.
  • Jack7777 Posts: 607Subscriber
    I am in a better space today. I started playing in the casinos for points, comp rooms, food. Last year, I was a second level diamond. This year, I cut back to barely making diamond. I figured it out. It's cheaper to pay for the room and my meals. I'll still play enough to get all my rooms booked in January as many as I can.

    I was in LV for 10 days last month and only played a small amount of VP, very small. I am using this as a kind of diary. It's fairly easy to make 2/5 live hourly online for me playing 100NL-200NL. I just need to be a lot more professional about it.
  • neverlearn2 Posts: 2,377Subscriber
    Man. Idk what ur going through really or went through but I do know all about degen moments and than dropping down in stakes so to say.

    One thing that helped me was to detach the excitement from the dollar amount and be happy with the win. My issue was betting too high haha.

    But either way at least you are aware enough to be working on it
  • Jack7777 Posts: 607Subscriber
    neverlearn2 said:
    Man. Idk what ur going through really or went through but I do know all about degen moments and than dropping down in stakes so to say.

    One thing that helped me was to detach the excitement from the dollar amount and be happy with the win. My issue was betting too high haha.

    But either way at least you are aware enough to be working on it
    Yes. I can be playing VP for $5 spin, next thing I know is it's $25. I just have to watch when I get a big stack of won money. I have to find other things to do at casinos and have a plan when I play online.
  • ohsnapzbrah Posts: 460Subscriber
    Definitely get some help. If you have to ban yourself from casinos, do so. The slight thrill isn't worth the potential amount of money that will be lost.
  • Jesse_The_Suit Posts: 291Subscriber
    I personally have never been tempted to engage in any non-poker gambling, so the value of my advice is probably limited. What I would say is just try to think of video poker the way you think of poker: I.e. In terms of expected value. If you can beat poker, you know not to take negative ev bets. Just remember every time you play VP you are doing the equivalent of getting two overcards in against a pair pre-flop with no pot odds. Sure, sometimes you win, but in the long run you are always going to go bust. Good luck Man.
  • RecreationalRogerRecreationalRoger Posts: 675Subscriber
    Try looking at it this way:

    You are a winning poker player. You know never never never play 72o as its always always always -EV.

    Everytime you sit down and play video poker, you've just agreed to play in a holdem game where you've agreed to get dealt 72o every hand, and you've agreed to be the sole poster of an ante every hand in a game with no blinds. Talk about poor game selection!
  • fozbo Posts: 63Subscriber
    Definitely not encouraging playing any kind of casino games and especially machines. .. but isn't perfect VP strategy +EV if you count comps?
  • Jack7777 Posts: 607Subscriber
    fozbo said:
    Definitely not encouraging playing any kind of casino games and especially machines. .. but isn't perfect VP strategy +EV if you count comps?
    IDK. I would get free rooms but how much would I chunk into the machines. I estimated the free rooms cost me $300+ per day. I have free nights now @Wynn and @Venetian during winter weekdays. I just got an invitation for free nights in Tunica, plus another room for one night for a friend. But somewhere along the way, your roll gets hit.

    I play online. I'm opening up about it because it's a problem. The casino is right where I am, 24/7. I quit before. I didn't play for a long time. Then you get on a run and playing it becomes addictive quick. I hit them hard, but I swear they nickel and dime their money back. The plan is always to hit and walk. This time, I'm walking.

    I do not like the shit feeling of losing it back.
    by 1CycleV
  • CycleV Posts: 324Subscriber
    Ain't nuttin free, as you have learned.

    I'm pulling for you to walk OR RUN away this time. Often a sticking point is finding something to fill the void. Now is a great time to find a new hobby to suck up some time and energy. I know for myself, during times of poker burnout, when I know I need to take a break, I suddenly have 10-20 hours a week I need to fill, and that is a struggle.
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