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QQ on the turn against overbet shove in Heads-Up pot from SB, Out of Position

WillHungPoker Posts: 61SubscriberProfessional
This was one of the critical hands for my session yesterday at Commerce Casino. It was $5/$10 NLHE. Effective stack was $1785 and I had the villain covered.

One of the recreational players from MP open limped. The villain raised to $50 from the button. I don't have history playing with him but he is a young Euro kid that is probably playing for profit. This means he may have a wider iso-raising range than normal because he has incentive to isolate the weak player in position.

My hand was Qc Qs (black Queens) from the SB. I raised to $200. BB folds, MP limper folds, Villain from Button calls.

Pot is heads-up for $415.

Flop: Jd 3h 4h
Analysis: I expect to be ahead of my villain's range on this flop with QQ. His range consists of many Jx type hands, from J8s to AJ. His effective nuts are going to be sets like JJ, 33, and 44. He also can have some flush draws with Hearts and straight draws like 56 suited. He can have a lot pairs from 22-JJ too. Clear value bet and I want to go for the larger sizing (about 65% pot) because I expect to get called by worse very often.

I bet $250, Villain calls.

Turn: 8d, pot is now $915.
Analysis: This card gives my opponent some additional draws. If my opponent decided to float with a hand like Ad5d and 9dTd, he now has a lot of equity with this card. The only hands that this card improved would be 88 and J8s, a very small part of his overall range that called my flop c-bet.

However, he only has about $1330 remaining and if I bet, I feel that I would be turning my hands face-up. I feel my opponent can just put me on QQ-AA and only put in more money if he is ahead.

Also, if I check, I can induce a bluff from his draws and maybe get him to bet AJ for value.

I decided to check. Villain shoves all-in for $1335.

What do you think I should do?

@Kilee I would like to hear your opinion on this spot too.

Comments

  • Tmp0085 Posts: 19SubscriberProfessional
    I think pre flop is standard 3b to 4x OOP.
    I think flop sizing should be smaller and default to 1/3 pot cbet with range vs skilled players. If you know he is isoing wide you should be 3b a wider range as well, which I believe means we should be using a smaller sizing for our cbets.

    As played, you check to induce him to bluff his draws and value own his top pairs. Your plan works but now youre rethinking it. I dont think we should be folding here when we unblock all FDs and top pair type hands, although I somewhat discount Jx type hands from this line when you say he is a good player. How does he view you? Most recs are not checking back overpairs on the turn so he may be trying to exploit that with a large bluff.
    Youre right his pure value hands limited to 33, 44, JJ(some frequency of him 4b JJ?). But he has significantly more combos of draws. Your line doesnt look very strong and he is repping thin. I call. But Im also a station so...
  • WillHungPoker Posts: 61SubscriberProfessional
    He turned out to have J8 suited. I'm not sad though because if he could have J8s, then he can have a much wider range of bluffs and semibluffs.
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