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Turning hand into bluff on river?

BigWhale11 Posts: 5Subscriber
edited June 6 in NLHE Strategy Discussion
Hello everyone. My first pot, but feel free to slaughter all streets :)

I was recently on vacation in Vienna for a few days to watch a concert, and play some poker. This hand was played at Concord Card Casino - Simmering. The NLH-games are quite small, as PLO is generally equally popular there. That said, they do get €1-€3 uncapped running at times, as well as bigger games during tournament series

This hand comes from a €1-€2 game with €200 max buy-in, no match the stack or anything so most players are quite shallow. I just sat down 25 minutes ago, and am around €190 to start the hand. I am the effective stack.

V1 - UTG. Have played around 90% of hands so far. Early 30's, seems aware enough, but incredibly splashy. Have probably around €400 after chasing a gutshot two hands earlier, where he called a raise to €12 from SB with 97o, called €25 with gutshot on (T-6-6) flop, and got there on turn. Have also seen him win a pot with K2o, and he generally seems to be calling very wide pre and post.

V2 - Cutoff. Sat down a few minutes after I did. Probably around 30 years old, not seen him gone to showdown or be very active yet. €200 stack.

Now on to the hand:

V1 straddles UTG to €4, which is the only straddle allowed in this game.

EP1 folds, and I am EP2 (9-handed) with black nines (99). I make it €16 to go, and get calls from V2 and V1 (straddle). Everyone else folded.

Flop (€51): Kd - Ts - 3c

V1 checks, and I check. Seems like a rather bad flop to bet into against two players, especially since one of them seems incredibly sticky. I do recognize I have a range advantage here though. V2 also checks.

Turn (€51): 7s

V1 leads €25. I decide to call, although in retrospect it's probably too loose given I'm stuck in the middle.

Although this villain can lead with almost anything here when flop checks around, I also do think all Kings are in his range, same with a bunch of Tens. I would however not discredit the chance of him betting a 7, a flushdraw that he picked up, or just random bluffs to pick it up after sensing weakness.

V2 also calls.

River (€126): 2h

Complete blank. V1 quickly checks.

Hero? Should I turn my hand into a bluff, or hope I have enough showdown-value to check it back? And if bet, what sizing? Pot is €126 and I have €149 behind.

Spoiler:
I did check back, although I retrospect think I should have gone for the bluff. I can have the slowplays of KK and TT here, in addition to occasionally (but not often) having played AK and KQ like this. Even QQ/JJ would be a slam-dunk value bet here.

V1 had QJo for the open ender, and V2 won the hand with ATdd
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Comments

  • jojacks Posts: 58Subscriber
    I agree that QQ and JJ would be value bets, because it doesn’t sound like V2 is folding a T. That said, I’m not sure that turning 99 into a bluff is going to accomplish much. I would likely just check back, thinking I’m good a decent percentage of the time.
    by 1CycleV
  • jojacks Posts: 58Subscriber
    Also, the order of the action seems a bit murky.
    Positions are V1-UTG, Hero - EP2, V2 - CO, correct? How does V2 lead turn? And how do both players check before you on river?
  • BigWhale11 Posts: 5Subscriber
    edited June 6
    You are right, 'jojacks' - there were a few errors in there. Have sorted it out now in OP.

    Obviously the fact that we still have V2 behind us to act on the river changes things, and probably makes it a bit harder to turn hand into bluff? Would be easier if in position and both villains checked to us.
  • MattM Posts: 38Subscriber
    This doesn't look like a good spot to bluff. You are basically hoping both have missed draws or a 7... seems like V1 is checking to check-call as well. Given how V1 is sticky it seems even worse.
  • CycleV Posts: 963Subscriber
    I haven't read the spoiler.

    While I likly would have just folded the turn since we are in the middle, I think your line is fine. I check the river, as you say he has enough missed bluffs that we're good often enough. He has more K or T than 7 (or a 3) so idk how much thin value there is here. He also doesn't seem like the folding type, so with all the missed draws out there and your flop check, he ought to look you up with a T.

    Good first post btw. Prob no need for the spoiler, usually you can add it after a couple of days if people express curiosity. Welcome aboard.
  • CycleV Posts: 963Subscriber
    I haven't read the spoiler.

    While I likely would have just folded the turn since we are in the middle, I think your line is fine. I check the river, as you say he has enough missed bluffs that we're good often enough. He has more K or T than 7 (or a 3) so idk how much thin value there is here. He also doesn't seem like the folding type, so with all the missed draws out there and your flop check, he ought to look you up with a T.

    Good first post btw. Prob no need for the spoiler, usually you can add it after a couple of days if people express curiosity. Welcome aboard.
  • BigWhale11 Posts: 5Subscriber
    All right, thanks for the feedback guys :)

    At the table I was frustrated with myself for not having considered turning it into a bluff. But with 3 of you all saying it's probably not the best spot for it, that makes me feel a bit better.
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