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Mississippi Straddle Preflop Considerations

jojacks Posts: 86Subscriber
My casino spreads 1/3 $300 cap with a Mississippi Straddle from 6-15.

I'm just curious what adjustments you're making based on position and SPR. It seems like most players just tighten up with the mentality that their hand isn't worth $xx, and I don't want to be one of those guys, but you lose so many post-flop weapons when the stacks get that short relative to the straddle.

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  • CycleV Posts: 1,096Subscriber
    jojacks said:
    but you lose so many post-flop weapons when the stacks get that short relative to the straddle.
    Well you said it best yourself! You're not going to have the chance to barrel people off of hands, so it may feel nitty, but you're more often than not gonna need big cards. In a 1/3 game there's too many people sitting with sub-$200 stacks that once they call pf for $30 and 3 see a flop, they're going with any pair.

    Even more than normal, you have to by hyper aware of stack sizes when spr approaches "fuck it, I'm all in" levels.
  • Chase Posts: 120Subscriber
    edited June 20
    While it's true that you will typically arrive at the flop with a lower SPR, it's also true that the pot size will be larger in terms of absolute $, and most live players often think in terms of absolute $, so you can get people to make folding errors that they wouldn't make given the same action in a non-straddled pot, simply because there is more money at risk.

    It's important to consider the order of preflop action. In some rooms when the BTN is straddled, the SB starts the preflop action. In other rooms, the natural UTG starts the action. In some rooms the action skips over the button (to the SB) as long as the pot hasn't been raised yet. And in other rooms the button has absolute last action preflop.

    In btn-straddle games where the SB starts the action preflop, a major adjustment I typically make is to open limp the SB with 100% of my playing range. In other words, I don't have an open-raising range from the SB. Sometimes limp-folding, sometimes limp-calling, sometimes limp-reraising, but entering the pot from SB by limping the straddle.

    There is another adjustment depending on how frequently the straddle is on. If the straddle is on for most of the hands, you should increase your normal open-raise size. If the straddle is only on occasionally, most players (at least at the lower levels) won't consciously adjust to the new stakes of the straddled hand, and so I tend to size my opens closer to what I would use in a non-straddled pot.

    Also, if you're unsure whether or not you should straddle, I use the following rule of thumb: If no one else at the table is straddling their BTN, I usually won't. If other players in your game are straddling their BTN's, you almost certainly should as well, otherwise those players will gain a reciprocal advantage over you.

  • jojacks Posts: 86Subscriber
    Thanks for the responses. In this game the action starts immediately to the left of the straddle and progresses normally. I do like the idea of limping 100% from up front.

    Generally there are only 1-2 players in the game who are straddling, so I'm not worried about being at a disadvantage, and if it's a $6 straddle, it doesn't seem like there is much of an adjustment. When the straddle is $12-$15 the game gets noticeably tighter, as most players are treating it like the pot has been raised, even though it was blind.

    Since we will only generally be playing premium hands, what's the value of getting BTN to fold vs. having BTN defend wide?

  • MattyB Posts: 55Subscriber
    That is interesting limping 100% your range in the SB. Hard to verify, but it feels like many pots I open from the SB are taken down PF.

    Anyone else use this strategy?
  • MattyB Posts: 55Subscriber
    Chase said:

    In btn-straddle games where the SB starts the action preflop, a major adjustment I typically make is to open limp the SB with 100% of my playing range. In other words, I don't have an open-raising range from the SB. Sometimes limp-folding, sometimes limp-calling, sometimes limp-reraising, but entering the pot from SB by limping the straddle.
    Do you open limp from the BB too?
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