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Facing Large raise on the river with full house

Geet Posts: 44Subscriber
edited November 15 in NLHE Strategy Discussion
5-5 Commerce Casino

Around 500 effective

Villian limps in mid position, 3 others limp. Hero with A6 of clubs in big blind checks.

Not much info on villian. Just 30 mins into the game. Seemed like a tight player.

Flop 669 with 9 of clubs. Checked around.

Turn - offsuit 2, rainbow board. Hero bets 20. Villian calls. Others fold.

Pot - 65

River 2. Hero bets 55, Villain makes it 315. Hero?
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  • crux Posts: 56Subscriber
    edited November 15
    What are the stack sizes?

    Is there any move but a 3bet here? It sounds like V was in EP like UTG? 99 would be an open there.
    If V is truly a tight player, they may not even have 22 in their EP range, and certainly shouldn't have 96. I think it just depends on stack sizes if it is a raise to something like 800, or jam.

    [edit] I either missed the stack size or it was added in. Assuming hero is the effective stack, the V is basically putting you all in.
    It's a jam to me. No way I'm folding, and may as well get the full double up. V isn't going to fold for another $105 are they?
    by 1Geet
  • Geet Posts: 44Subscriber
    Sorry, forgot to mention. Stack sizes are close to 500. Villian is in mid position, 2 before hijack.
  • Geet Posts: 44Subscriber
    edited November 15
    crux said:
    What are the stack sizes?

    Is there any move but a 3bet here? It sounds like V was in EP like UTG? 99 would be an open there.
    If V is truly a tight player, they may not even have 22 in their EP range, and certainly shouldn't have 96. I think it just depends on stack sizes if it is a raise to something like 800, or jam.

    [edit] I either missed the stack size or it was added in. Assuming hero is the effective stack, the V is basically putting you all in.
    It's a jam to me. No way I'm folding, and may as well get the full double up. V isn't going to fold for another $105 are they?
    Is there no consideration that the villian might have 69 or 99 or 22? Would they turn just a 2 into bluff - probably not. Maybe he has a 6 too but all other hands he is representing beat me.

  • LatvianMissile Posts: 173Subscriber
    edited November 15
    I think we should lead this flop. We can get called by worse 6s, 9s, straight draws and the occasional low pocket. On a 2 nothing really changes and if someone calls, we likely lost value.

    River: Just call was my instinct but thinking it thru, it's a fold.

    I think we need to be good 55ish% of the time since we're playing for a chop (and I could be wrong on the exact percentage).
    Lose: 1 combo of 96, 1 combo of 22, 3 combos of 99.
    Chop: 1 combo of A6, 1 combo of 65, 1 combo of 67... if we think they'll limp some offsuit combos then we can call, but After working it out I think it's actually a fold.
    by 1Geet
  • kaboojiekaboojie Posts: 468Subscriber
    I think you have to bet the flop here. There's enough draws and 9x hands that will call. Checking is losing value imo.

    Turn bet is good.

    River bet seems a bit big. I think this size will blow V off a lot of hands he would call with if the bet was say 40.

    I don't like laying down boats at this level, but this looks like a better hand. He responded to your large bet with a pretty massive shove. Almost looks like he wants 6x to call. Unless V is a bit of a maniac, I would fold.
    by 2Geet crux
  • Geet Posts: 44Subscriber
    edited November 16
    Thanks for the comments.

    Spoiler:


    I felt like calling was a mistake but ended up calling anyways.

    He had 99 for top full house. After playing couple hours I realized he was a super nit.

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