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Nut straight facing river raise on 3-flush board

FMCasual Posts: 9SubscriberProfessional
edited February 27 in NLHE Strategy Discussion
1/3 NLH
Winning a bit, relatively unknown image
BTN - Youngish Asian reggish looking guy, hasn't done anything wild

MP limps $3
Hero ($800) raise $15 K Q
BTN ($800ish) call, limper calls

Flop T 9 5x ($48)
MP check, Hero check, BTN thinks…underbets $15, MP calls, I call

Turn J ($93)
MP checks, I decide I want to dictate the size of the pot given BTN’s under bet and it’s multiway, so I bet $70 thinking a lot of opponents’ calling range is inelastic
BTN tanks, makes some faces, looks like he’s about to fold, then calls……
MP folds.

River 7x ($233)
Hero bets $150….Villain tanks and tanks and makes faces, then raises to $350.
Hero? Is anyone actually doing this fake hollywooding w/ lone A in $1/$3 or is all of this hollywooding surely indicative of exactly what it looks like
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  • Daddyslap Posts: 110Subscriber
    I've found that most players don't hollywood like this in low stakes games - The discomfort is generally legit. However, that doesn't mean that you are ahead. He could be wincing because he has a low flush like 56. He could also have the bottom end of the straight and feel uncomfortable betting it. Maybe even a set that he is value-owning himself on.

    We're getting 2.7ish to 1 to call here - I can argue for both a call and an exploitative fold.

    What are stacks like at the start of the hand, and what are the max buy-in requirements? Is this a 100 BB cap game, or a match the stack? It seems this game is playing pretty deep, but if its a 100BB cap game, the Villain has obviously been having a winning session, so we need to take that into account if we didn't watch it happen and see how it went down.
  • Arenzano Posts: 1,464Subscriber
    Think of all the times someone has gone through this routine. I highly doubt this raise is anything but the mortal nuts. He isn’t raising a smaller flush, and it takes a special player to go through all of that to basically min bluff the naked Ac.
  • LatvianMissile Posts: 289Subscriber
    edited February 27
    When people tank or count off the raise then put in more chips they almost always have the nuts. People want to look strong if they bluff. So I'd fold
  • FuzzypupFuzzypup Posts: 2,546Subscriber
    Always weigh his tell with what is on the board. If say the board was low and unconnected, a King came, and you bet (you are preflop raiser) and he takes his time and looks uncomfortable, then that tell is legitimate. I just had a hand 2 weekends ago with I double barreled with complete air just on that tell and the opponent folded.

    But this is not the case. Especially if he pretends like he wants to fold then calls and on a 3 flush board. So look at the evidence.
    #1 he bet small OTF. Means he has a draw or maybe a very weak hand.
    #2 he hems and haws and calls OTT. This drastically polarizes his range to very strong or very weak, but not a set or 2 pair with his acting. Any set is quickly calling or 2 pair. They know they got outs.
    #3 So you should be betting on the smaller side OTR and when he raises you are fucked.

    Never seen someone at low stakes raise the naked Ace of the 3 flush when someone bets into them. It is possible he is a clueless drooler and doesn't know better thinking his 2 pair he just hit with T 7 is good. Very rare though.
  • chizler62 Posts: 71Subscriber
    A raise after acting weak on an early street without the nuts changing is always Hollywooding.
    I reference the situation with a movie quote from The Ringer “I’ve seen better acting on pornos”
  • joshofalltrades Posts: 134Subscriber
    Agree with others that we can make an exploitative lay down here. Not sure if I’ve ever seen multi-street hollywooding, but in my experience, a look of distress/almost fold, followed by a raise is almost always a very nutted hand.
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