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SkinnybrownSkinnybrown Posts: 286Member
edited November -1 in NLHE Strategy Discussion
January 16th, 2013
Lucky Chances Casino 3/5 NL
San Francisco, California

Hand One: We are playing 6 handed in a must move game. I had been card dead for about an hour before this hand.

Villain - Splashy and squirmy recreational player. He's not afraid to bluff perceived weakness. He's willing to call bets and raises with weak hands. He is talkative and giving good action. 100% of my focus is playing pots with him.

Effective stacks - $500

Villain straddles in the BB for $10, Hero raises to $30 UTG with KcKs, it folds to villain who calls the $20 quickly. I think some people make the mistake of raising bigger here. We want villain to stay in the hand with a wide range, we could care less about the $18 in dead money and there is no problem with this sizing and getting in stacks by the river if we choose to.

Flop $65 : 4d5h7d. Villain checks, I bet $45 (Meant to bet $60 but live misclicked) and villain calls quickly. I think betting anything less than $55 is just flushing money down the toilet.

Turn $155 : 4d5h7d7h. Villain instantly leads $75 and I tank a bit before calling. Donkbetaments. I think we are forced to call here. By raising we would fold out all his bluffs which we have great equity against and we would also fold out weak two pair type hands while better hands are always calling or reraising.

River $305: 4d5h7d7hQh. Villain instantly reaches back and bets $150. So, we have to call $150 to win 455 which is 3 to 1 so we need to be good 25% of the time. If he had a seven I found his river action very peculiar because the nuts changed on the river and he spent no time to consider this before betting. I figure he would reraise the flop with 2 pair plus so it basically came down to a weirdly played 7 or some kind of back door flush like 69hh or A3hh or a rare boat with Q7ss or Q7cc. In the end I felt he definitely had a bluffing frequency with this line and I was good at least 1/4th the time. I eventually called and villain tabled 95 off.


Hand Two: Table is the main game and is playing 9 handed. Everyone is playing pretty passively. Soft and slow table.

Effective stacks: $700.

Villain one (CO) - Has over 1k in front of him. He seems ok. I've seen him raise to $15 pre a few times since I have sat down. I 've also seen him take stabs in several spots when checked to or there is perceived weakness. I think he is the type of player to stab with a very wide range.

Villain two (BU) - Has $300 in front of him. Tight player. He gives me a lot of respect and does not play back at me with anything but very strong holdings. He fast plays big hands.


3 limps, Villain one limps CO, Villain two limps BU, hero completes sb with 58o and bb checks.

Flop $30: Jc7c6s. Checks to Villain one who bets $15, Villain two calls, I raise to $80, folds to villain one who calls quickly and villain two folds. I felt villain one was betting a wide range and villain two was also calling with a wide range. I thought I could move them off most of their holdings now especially since I'm showing strength by making the raise into multiple people. I also have equity if called. I just thought it was a good spot to semibluff.

Turn $205: Jc7c6sQh. I bet $150 and Villain folds. I thought this was a great card to barrel. I think villain one would fold a fair amount of his JQ's on the flop and he also doesn't have many Q high flush draws. I still have equity if called. If villain did call I would have shifted his range to a lot more flush draws that were ace high or started out as combo draws or became combo draws on the turn. I don't 3 barrel a ton but I thought, if called, this would be a great spot to triple barrel under bluff the river on a lot of brick cards. I think some people freak out and launch the river as a bluff but if you think of the range we are trying to fold, we really don't have to bet that much in relation to the pot.


Hand Three - Table is the main game and is playing 9 handed.

Villain - Biggest spot at the table by far. He is raising a lot of hands and is not afraid to call raises preflop. In on hand I saw him raise a bunch of limps when checked to then call a limp re raise with K2ss. He stabbed at the flop when checked to with complete air and no back door draws and ended up hitting runner runner straight to win a big pot. The player with AA just called the flop (mistake) and the turn went check check for him to get there. I also saw him raise A9ss to $50 preflop out of the big blind when 5 people had limped and after getting three callers bomb a 556dd flop. He is bad.

Effective stacks - $950.

4 limps Villain raises to $25 in the CO, Button calls, I call in the BB with 88, 2 other limpers call.

Flop $123: 458r. Checks to villain who bets $60, I raise to $170 everyone else folds and Villain calls. I think c/r flop is best line to build a pot as villain has shown a propensity to cbet a lot whether he has anything or not. I also thought about betting small to induce.

Turn $463. 458Ar. I bet $185 and villain calls quickly. I chose this sizing because the only part of his range that we need to worry about are underpairs to the Ace. I think with all his Ace high floats we are getting paid no matter what size we chose and by betting small we are more likely to get him emotionally tied to the pot by the river with pairs less than an Ace.

River $833. 458A4r. I have $570 left and bet $470, Villain goes all in for $100 more, I call and villain tables AA.

I left the table before being dealt a single hand after that. I was definitely upset and bummed after I lost that pot and I definitely was no longer playing my A game. Normally, I would have stayed and tried to get my money back but this time I took a deep breath and realized It was 11:00 pm, I had work the next morning, the game is capped so I could only buy back for $500 and I was no longer 100% focused. It was time to go home, eat some good pad thai and live to fight another day...

Mental game ftw.

-Skinnybrown

-Thoughts on any part of this post (Whether technical or not) are definitely welcome!

Comments

  • StopHammertimeStopHammertime Posts: 81Member
    Hand 1: Do you believe Villain played the turn and river so aggressively because he perceived your $45 into $65 flop bet as weakness? I think that's a standardish looking bet, myself, unless he saw you worrying over your bet and misinterpreted it.

    Hand 3: Reading the turn, I thought "against this type of Villain, maybe we can go for the double check raise". I can't remember the last time I ever did that, though; it really takes flopping a big hand against a player who can't help himself.
  • SkinnybrownSkinnybrown Posts: 286Member
    StopHammertime said

    Hand 1: Do you believe Villain played the turn and river so aggressively because he perceived your $45 into $65 flop bet as weakness? I think that's a standardish looking bet, myself, unless he saw you worrying over your bet and misinterpreted it.

    Hand 3: Reading the turn, I thought "against this type of Villain, maybe we can go for the double check raise". I can't remember the last time I ever did that, though; it really takes flopping a big hand against a player who can't help himself.
    Hand 1: I do not think he saw the Cbet as weakness. I think he was just bad and wanted to win the hand.

    Hand 3: I considered this option but didn't see any merit to it. I actually think it would be pretty bad to take this line. If he has Ax it doesn't matter if we c/r or lead. If he has a pair worse than an A or a draw I thought there was a decent chance he would check back the turn to go to showdown because the pot is already pretty big on the turn. However, all these hands would call a bet so that is a HUGE reason not to go for a check raise on the turn. The only time double check raising would be more appealing is if we were A LOT deeper. That's not the case here. We can easily get stacks in by taking a c/r bet bet line so there is no real reason to get fancy imo. Also, there are not many pure bluffs in his range once he calls the flop check raise.
  • whatsyourplay? Posts: 752Member
    Skinnybrown, I like the way you played all three hands and your reasoning. Just don't include results please, it really makes it difficult to make an objective analysis.
    Hand 1: if guys bet the river instantly, even though the nuts changed, it's often a bluff. I think Bart also discussed this in one or two episodes.
    Hand 3: I am not sure if I'd prefer a bigger turn bet. First, it looks more bluffy if you bomb the A, and second, there are some pair+draw type hads like 87s, 65s etc that call a bigger bet on the turn, but not on the river. Also, it's easier to get the stacks in on the river (e.g. against weak two pair type hands).
  • whatsyourplay? Posts: 752Member
    forgot to mention that I don't like the preflop call with 85o in the worst position. Even against very weak competition, I doubt it's + EV.
  • SkinnybrownSkinnybrown Posts: 286Member
    whatsyourplay? said

    Skinnybrown, I like the way you played all three hands and your reasoning. Just don't include results please, it really makes it difficult to make an objective analysis.
    Hand 1: if guys bet the river instantly, even though the nuts changed, it's often a bluff. I think Bart also discussed this in one or two episodes.
    Hand 3: I am not sure if I'd prefer a bigger turn bet. First, it looks more bluffy if you bomb the A, and second, there are some pair+draw type hads like 87s, 65s etc that call a bigger bet on the turn, but not on the river. Also, it's easier to get the stacks in on the river (e.g. against weak two pair type hands).
    Hand 3: I think you are spot on for why we should bet bigger on the turn.

    Thank you for the input and I'll be sure not to post results next time.
  • SkinnybrownSkinnybrown Posts: 286Member
    whatsyourplay? said

    forgot to mention that I don't like the preflop call with 85o in the worst position. Even against very weak competition, I doubt it's + EV.
    Agree with this too.
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