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YoungGrinder Posts: 210Subscriber
edited March 2014 in Low Content Forum
Hard Rock Hollywood FL
At the table last night, there was a massive angle shoot that I have to share because it practically put me on tilt.
I'm not actually involved in the hand although I did stick up for the old guy.

Hand is heads up. At the river, the old guy checks. The 28-30 year old pro on the button puts out a stack of 90 and whispers to the dealer all-in. The old guy puts out a stack that is close to 90 quickly and doesn't say call. He is obviously just trying to call the 90. Dealer then puts out the all-in button and simultaneously the guy turns over rivered trips. The old man objects saying he didn't know he was all-in. Pro goes ballistic.

Floor comes over and rules the guy only has to call the 90 as the all-in wasn't clear. Pro objects.
Floor convenes with all supervisors (other than shift manager) and returns with the same ruling. Pro objects.
Shift manager comes over and RULES THE SAME WAY! Pro objects.
Shift manager hears the same story again and now overturns his OWN RULING and forces the old guy to pay off a $600+ bet. Old guy doesn't even pay the bet for at least a minute. Then pays it and quickly leaves.

This old guy can dump 6-7k in 2/5 over a weekend and now he'll probably go elsewhere. Very nice guy too.
Kid just smiles ear to ear after its all said and done. Absolute douchebag.

Another pro and I instantly racked up and left/changed tables. I even tried to chase down the old guy to apologize about how bad the ruling was but couldn't find him.
Floor even told us later that he knew that ruling was very, very bad, but he can't object his supervisor's ruling.

Comments

  • neverlearn2 Posts: 2,827Subscriber
    Stupid. The pro is a dumbass. But it's poker so many guys who consider things like this ok and really it how can anyone argue with him if his decisions are all based on making money and nothing else and he knows he can sway the floor as he sees fit.

    I just got a small angle shoot on me a tourny yesterday. I bet PF from hijack. BTN and SB calls. Flop comes SB checks and it checks thru dealer then goes back to SB and asks him again. I contest saying he checked already and dealer said he didn't see it. Dude then bets pot I'm upset and call. He then shoves blind like he's mad. I fold cause I know he's strong and with history also knowing he's a donkey. After hand ends he admits to angle shooting me and says so what. It was dealer fault and he did nothing wrong. The dumb thing is if he played it straight he would have made more.
  • YoungGrinder Posts: 210Subscriber
    Haha I like how he would have made more if he wouldn't have been a dumbass.
    I'm all for angle shooting as long as it doesn't ruin the integrity of the game.
  • swollie Posts: 83Subscriber
    Where you in seat 6???
  • tensor0910 Posts: 123Subscriber
    YoungGrinder said:
    Haha I like how he would have made more if he wouldn't have been a dumbass.
    I'm all for angle shooting as long as it doesn't ruin the integrity of the game.
    But what form of angle shooting doesn't ruin the integrity of the game? Not trying to flame or anything but when you venture outside the realm of betting, raising, c/r, etc. etc. then its no longer a friendly game to me.
  • Lownstarr Posts: 268Subscriber
    Awful. That used to be my home casino...saw so many bad rulings there. It's too bad they skinned your sheep instead of just shearing him.
  • BradleyT Posts: 621SubscriberProfessional
    Here's the opposite of that. Same guy does this all the time (in PLO). Someone makes a bet on the river and this guy will start tossing in $5 chips one at a time. Before he puts in enough chips to have fully called the other person will usually table their hand. If the angle-shooter is beat he'll muck and say I never said call. If the angle-shooter isn't beat he'll put in the rest of the chips for a bet. Floor can't do anything because he never declared an action.
  • GoldenEagle Posts: 59SubscriberProfessional
    That is terrible. If I were you, anytime I see the pro playing, I would announce to his table very loudly that what he did.

    Something like "Hey guys, I see you are playing with him (point). This is what he did... "
  • electricsheep Posts: 169Subscriber
    Someone did exactly the same thing to me but I called the floor first asking on what the ruling is before taking my action. Regardless though, the angle shooter can still get a lot of information from you and change his intention depending on how you react.
  • electricsheep Posts: 169Subscriber
    check out how shameless this is:


  • OminousCowOminousCow Posts: 702Subscriber
    Hah, he could have gotten so much more just by playing straightforwardly.
  • VernonJones Posts: 178Subscriber
    On the video one I'm not going to lie , sometime does that to me at the table they better be a fast runner when it's time to leave.
  • BradleyT said:
    Here's the opposite of that. Same guy does this all the time (in PLO). Someone makes a bet on the river and this guy will start tossing in $5 chips one at a time. Before he puts in enough chips to have fully called the other person will usually table their hand. If the angle-shooter is beat he'll muck and say I never said call. If the angle-shooter isn't beat he'll put in the rest of the chips for a bet. Floor can't do anything because he never declared an action.
    WTF?! Where I play, once you toss a chip out after a bet it's a call.
  • neverlearn2 Posts: 2,827Subscriber
    Yea the one electric sheep posted dude did tht before in same tourny. What an ass. I always figure if you got to cheat like that to win then you must suck.
    by 1Dusty
  • YoungGrinder Posts: 210Subscriber
    That video is sickening. The floor even says this guy did this with the nuts, knowing it was an angle shoot. Lol
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