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1/2 KK in CO in an interesting spot

GlennJones Posts: 176Subscriber
edited November -1 in NLHE Strategy Discussion
This question isn't so much about how I played this hand, it is how I *should* play this in a deeper game.

Playing 1/2 in an Indian casino in San Diego. Hero is about 200BB deep. Villains in this hand is a really really bad player in MP1 with maybe 50BBs to start the hand, and a gamble, middle aged Eastern Eurpoean LAG with about 80BBs in HJ. Button has straddled to $4. MP1 and HJ have called. Hero looks down to KhKd in CO and raises to $16. Button folds, both villains call. Preflop pot is about $50.

Flop is JhTd8h. MP1 leads for $25. HJ flats. Hero raises to $75. MP1 tank calls off the rest of her stack. HJ now comes over the top for an additional $21. Against these short stacks, I am comfortable getting it in all day long. My question is if we are deeper, is raise/fold the proper move here?

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  • Chicago Iron Posts: 68Subscriber
    yes. on such a wet board vs multiple opponents you're going be facing 2 pair+ a large percentage of the time.
  • whatsyourplay? Posts: 752Member
    Yes, you have to fold to a 3bet if you are significantly deeper. Also, raise the flop larger on such a drawy board, especially against to guys.
  • Arenzano Posts: 1,464Subscriber
    Given the stacks in the actual hand I think you get the money in. If you are deeper, I agree raise/fold probably is the best play. I would be curious to know what the prior history of the villains was.

    But does anyone advocate for flatting and evaluating the turn or is that just too passive?
  • The beautiful thing about lower stakes games is that it is very, very rare that you encounter someone capable of bet 3 betting a draw, making raise folding the proper and easy play.

    Bart
  • whatsyourplay? Posts: 752Member
    Brudre21 said

    But does anyone advocate for flatting and evaluating the turn or is that just too passive?
    With those stack sizes, I don't think it is a good play. If he's on a draw, you give him a free card to hit, and if he has a worse made hand, a scare card on the turn might prevent you from getting all his chips. Also, you don't konw which cards are good for you and which aren't.

    If you are significantly deeper, flatting becomes better I guess.
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