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Arenzano Posts: 1,464Subscriber
edited November -1 in NLHE Strategy Discussion
I am curious as to how the members of this site study the game. I recently started to listen to Bart's podcasts, and read books the forums, and try to post when I think I have something to say. What else are you guys doing to improve? The one thing I know that I lack are friends who I can talk about the game with. Any tips or suggestions?

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  • Philly Dave Posts: 114Subscriber
    Brudre21 said

    I am curious as to how the members of this site study the game. I recently started to listen to Bart's podcasts, and read books the forums, and try to post when I think I have something to say. What else are you guys doing to improve? The one thing I know that I lack are friends who I can talk about the game with. Any tips or suggestions?
    Things I do:

    Read hand histories of other players here (or on other forums). I look particularly for things other winning players might be doing differently than me (lines, bet sizings) and question whether this is something that would benefit my game. It's important to compare apples to apples in terms of stakes, skill of players, buy in caps etc. What works in Bart's 5/5/5 or 5/10 games in CLP or DP/SOP might be drastically different than what goes on in my 1/2 and 2/5 games although many concepts apply.

    Post HHs of difficult spots and ask for input. Many times we may incorrectly assign a range to our villains... getting input from others is very helpful. Many times we my have developed sort of habitual responses or rote lines. Input from others has helped me plug leaks and optimize my play far more than would be possible by self study alone.

    Use poker stove or poker cruncher to evaluate equities of hands played and improve my estimation of equity at the tables and improve bet sizings. Sometimes I take interesting spots I observe in games and perhaps have an opinion on as to how the hand was played if I was not involved in the hand and away from the table I will stove the hands and possible ranges to see sort of continually calibrate my "feel" for equity.

    You mention this and it's not something you can do over night but.... I found a poker buddy who plays in my games and has similar interests in improving and we discuss hands. My primary friend I actually met on 2+2 and figured out we played at the same Casino.
  • jimswarthout Posts: 15Member
    Brudre21 said

    I am curious as to how the members of this site study the game. I recently started to listen to Bart's podcasts, and read books the forums, and try to post when I think I have something to say. What else are you guys doing to improve? The one thing I know that I lack are friends who I can talk about the game with. Any tips or suggestions?
    im in the same boat. ive read books...lurked on 2p2 for years but once i found the podcasts it really prompted me to be a winning rec player. i post my misplayed hands (just started) and tbh its quite humbling to realize how poorly i play sometimes. i dont. care how bad i might look by posting hands. i believe that is the key to my future succes. email me anytime to discuss poker. jtcustompainting44@gmail.com
    i dont have the answers but i know where to get them. i have nobody to discusz poker with either
  • CruelUltimatum Posts: 160Subscriber
    * Watch an episode of Crush Live Poker (which I haven't seen) on mute.
    * Stop on every action and think what you would do in that player's spot, and why. Imagine you being the commentator for the episode.
    * If the player doesn't do what you would do, pause again. Ask yourself what they are thinking. Is that better or worse than what you came up with?
    * Go through the hand this way.
    * Replay the hand with commentary on.
    * If you agree with Bart on what to do but your reasoning is different, make note of it.

    This is an exercise I've imported from watching Magic: the Gathering videos (when I'm playing that game competitively), and although it's pretty time-intensive, it's very useful and it helps me think about not just what to do, but why I'm doing what I'm doing.
  • Shark Posts: 108Subscriber
    I just booked the best couch ever for a lot of money in a 5 session-package and he found out a lot of fondamental leaks in my game and helped me really to improve my win-rate. I heard the audio recordings from those 5 coaching-sessions times and time and thought about my game from an objective angel. tried to criticize myself with him. It really helped my game. You will be shocked how many unknown/unconscious patterns there are grown in your game. for example I had a tendency to fall into a check/calling-mode every time I got lost in a hand facing action if I had originally the initiative in the hand and I absoloutely did it unconsciously.I didn't even know about it. The coach saw it instantly and now I got his voice in my head every time I happen to start falling into that stationy-pattern and stop doing that by check-folding instead of check-calling to see what happens. I don't know if I 'm allowed to announce the name of my couch because it would be advertizing for him.
  • Arenzano Posts: 1,464Subscriber
    Hey Jim I sent you an email. Anytime you want to talk poker let me know.
  • whatsyourplay? Posts: 752Member
    Rad_shark said

    I just booked the best couch ever for a lot of money in a 5 session-package and he found out a lot of fondamental leaks in my game and helped me really to improve my win-rate. I heard the audio recordings from those 5 coaching-sessions times and time and thought about my game from an objective angel. tried to criticize myself with him. It really helped my game. You will be shocked how many unknown/unconscious patterns there are grown in your game. for example I had a tendency to fall into a check/calling-mode every time I got lost in a hand facing action if I had originally the initiative in the hand and I absoloutely did it unconsciously.I didn't even know about it. The coach saw it instantly and now I got his voice in my head every time I happen to start falling into that stationy-pattern and stop doing that by check-folding instead of check-calling to see what happens. I don't know if I 'm allowed to announce the name of my couch because it would be advertizing for him.
    Rad_shark, was that a coach for live poker or online? Did he sit with you in a casino? Or how did your sessions look like?
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