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2/5 300BB+ deep, Flopped NUT flush, got C/R on River

ClockClock Posts: 1,133Subscriber
edited July 2014 in NLHE Strategy Discussion
2/5 game at local casino Fri night.

Hero: White mid 30s, been playing pretty solid, a bit card dead, so folded a lot.
Not playing a lot of hands OOP
Stack: $1500-1600+

Villain: Asian mid 30s, played fairly solid so far. Not your typical Asian over Aggro player.
Stack: Over $2k+

2-3 limpers, Hero makes it $40 with AhQh on BU, Villain calls from BB, one more caller.
Flop (~130) Jh9h5h: Villain checks, Hero bets $50 Villain calls, other player folds.
Turn (~230) 5x: Villain leads into me $120...
Hero: I found this kinda troubling tbh and given stacks I decided to keep the pot small and just call.
What does everybody think about this here? Anybody raising?

River (~470) 6h Villain checks, Hero: cuts out a bet while looking over to Villain reaction, bets $250.
Villain quickly announces RAISE, seems pretty excited, makes it $600



  • Arenzano Posts: 1,464Subscriber
    Your flop bet is okay, but you could have bet at least half pot 65 or 70, you are not going to lose your villains with that bet size.

    When the villain leads the turn, he could be doing this with a flush or a FH. Either way, I think raising is less optimal than calling a solid player in this spot. Interesting c/r on the river by the villain. The raise is basically a little over a min-raise. Its a bet he wants a call with. You just have to figure out if he check raises a non-nut flush as opposed to leading the river, like he did on the turn.

    Most villains are NOT check raising an obvious flush without it being the nut flush or better. Your calling 350 to win 1320, roughly 3:1. In game, I think most people are calling here, but I suspect you're toast, will see Jacks, Tens, or quads here a lot of the time. The hero should fold and throw up...

  • AesahAesah Posts: 1,048Pro
    Why bet on the worst river card for you?

    Fold river as played.
  • RDF Posts: 183Member
    Raise the turn and size it large for value.
  • Tyrith Posts: 353Subscriber
    I'd bet 90 or so on the flop. There's only a narrow calling range here, of sets and flushes, but they'll call a good sized bet.

    The thing we have to keep in mind is that the only realistic combo he can have that gives him a flush better than T-high is KhTh. Th8h is the only combo that gives him a T-high flush; besides that, we're talking about middling flushes.

    Also, if his pre-flop range doesn't include 8h6h kinds of suited gapped cards, he has more combos of sets that make full houses than he does flushes.

    When he donks the turn, I'm probably just going to flat and go into call down mode. We're in position, so if he checks the river we can bet the river. If we raise, he may call the raise, but I doubt he's going to call the raise and then call a large river bet. There are very few cards that can come that change the strength of our hand, so I'd rather flat and leave open the possibility of folding the river if he bombs it.

    As played, I snap fold the river here. This is a boat or a straight flush 100% of the time.
  • Bukowski Posts: 8Member
    edited July 2014
    Aesah said:
    Why bet on the worst river card for you?

    Fold river as played.
    Do we not lose too much value by checking back?


    Agree very much with Tyrith RE flop sizing. As played I am folding the river, we beat only bluffs, and its unlikely our opponent is bluffing us in this spot.
  • ClockClock Posts: 1,133Subscriber
    edited July 2014
    Thanks for the comments.
    Here's what I was thinking:

    When he led the turn and I called I figured he's prob putting me on FD, prob NUT FD since I raised pre.
    Nobody would EVER fold a flush at these levels, especially NUT flush, so when 4th heart hits he basically knows I'm calling his c/r.


    I puke folded - and he showed me JTo... go figure...

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