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GroundhogDay said:Can't wait to listen to it after work, especially after reading the 2+2 thread today... The one you tweeted out on Monday...Those guys were harsh on you in that post - don't know if you were able to address it in the pod-cast, but I will be listening to it soonhttp://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/petitiion-poker-hall-fame-rescind-its-induction-negreanu-1485661/
CalgaryPokerGuy said:Sorry for my attempt to derail your topic, I was driving when I called in and wasn't listening to the live podcast... I'll let you know when I climb out of my downswing! Cheers.
RDF said:Rake increases hurt the 2+2 community, of which the majority play low stakes. That's why they complain about them. It's the same way you complain about how tourneys are killing cash games. "Fuck those whiners unless I'm the one whining!"Online vs live rake increases are different, but good insights RE live.
totsdtf said:if you're dependent on something as unreliable as what one poker website sets its rake at to make a living, maybe you should reconsider how you make a living.
RDF said:Yeah, Limon's argument that the small winning/breakeven players are bad for the poker site and the big winners are fine, just doesn't apply online. As evidence by the fact that PokerStars grew to a 5B company by catering to regs.Online, the shitty regs 10-tabling generate massive rake, and the top sharks are the ones cashing heaps out of the ecosystem. A poker site's goal is to churn the money as much as possible before it gets cashed out, and break-even regs are crucial for that.
AbeLimon said:yes. when i think back on my gaming life ive been in so many different places. card counter, advantage player, sports "bettor", investor, online player, live player, limit specialist, private game host, poker coach, no limit player, prop, golf "bettor", plo host, podcaster, etc etc. Each time I learn a new thing it becomes part of my advantage play portfolio. Even if it only brings in a few thousand a year it all adds up and makes life easier and less stressful. I like where im at now but it could all change tomorrow and id still make bank, this is what i try to impress upon the listeners. Be good at the poker game of life, focusing on some stupid metric that broke little kids thought up is a waste of time.Im not a fan of role models because its as limiting as it is inspiring but if you had to choose one in the poker/gaming industry it would be bobby baldwin and not the nosebleed baller of the month.Some will disagree because they are getting something out of the competition side of poker. I was there once, but it passes and you dont want to miss opportunities.
AbeLimon said:I discussed withdrawals in my post. working through more hands doesnt increase the rake it accelerates it (unless it reduces withdrawals). i covered this as well.
AbeLimon said: this goes for Cheets reg wars example as well, the two regs generate No, additional, rake if they never deposit. The sites cant rake more than has been deposited).