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phatsuit Posts: 26Member
edited November -1 in NLHE Strategy Discussion
I'm playing in a 1-3 home game. The villain is a guy who loves to beat me and will sometimes play inferior hands to crack me. He starts the hand with a little over $200

I am in the cutoff, about 1000 deep the hijack limps in and I raise to $15 with KJ, the villain on the button calls and the limper calls.
-Pot $43 Flop is KT4 rainbow check, I bet $25, villain calls and limper folds
-Pot $93 Turn K KT4, 2 hearts now on board, I bet $65 and villain goes all in for an additional $120, whats my play?

Hand 2

This is in a casino 2-5 game the next day. The villain in this hand was a young extremely tight player. He moved to our table from another so I considered him at least a thinking player. He was at the table for a while and only turned over one hand which was KK. The table was extremely loose and very passive, everyone was limping and we even had a few times where all 10 players limped. I wasn't raising to pick up the limps too often because when you raised at this table, everyone would call.

I started this hand with about $600 and the villain had me covered. There were 3 limpers to me on the cutoff and I limped with KJ, villain on button limps and both blinds call.
-Pot $29 Flop is KK7, checked to me, I bet $20 villain calls and all fold
-Pot $69 Turn A KK7, I bet $50 and villain min raises me to $100, I ended up calling hoping he hit the Ace with AQ or something.
-Pot $269 River 2 AKK7, I check and villain makes it $275, whats my play?

Comments

  • eselspiel Posts: 115Subscriber
    I think you have to call both, but I guess this is why KJ is called a trap hand. Wink

    Hand 1: bet more OTF and OTT. OTR your getting about 3 to 1 who, from your description, might be trying to make a move on you.

    Hand 2: lead the river for about $175 fold to a raise. As played, getting 2 to 1, you call. You describe this guy as a thinking player, so after a bunch on limpers, he would raise with AA. He might call with AK but there is only 3 combos of those left and a bunch of AX that might be trying to get value or take you off a chop. He over bets on the river; is he looking for a crying call or to push you out? Would he play 77 this way, when you could very well have AK for a bigger full house?
  • I call with hand 1.

    Hand 2 -

    I think the significant part is that he over-limped on the button. If he is a thinking player that helps define his range a bit more, and makes it seem more likely he has an Axs, KT ish type hand. I wouldn't worry about AK or AA here and only A/K2, K7, 77 and KQ beat you. Out of those, I would (most likely) eliminate KQ and 77 for the lack of a raise, and K2 just because it is K2 :-) I def. call here as I don't think a raise gets called by anything worse. There is a distinct chance I reraise the turn, but that might be horrible.
  • phatsuit Posts: 26Member
    Hand 1- When you say bet more, are you talking $30 or a pot size bet? Also I should have explained further when I said he is out to get me. By this I mean that he would call hands most normal people might not. This player does not get a ton of value out of hands, yet he is not the type to make a big bluff.

    Hand 2- I speculated that he was a thinking player but really only knew that he was tight.
  • I cant see folding hand #1 with his stack size .Pot is like 278, you have invested 105 and its 120 more to call, I think you are good enough times for the call to be profitable.

    Hand 2 is kind of meh. The call on turn is fine but the fact he shoves river tells me he is confident his hand is best and kj doesnt beat much. Is he the kind of player that shoves river with KT or worse. A fold doesnt seem that bad to me.
    I would raise hand 2 pre over limpers and hopefully become the button. If limpers call and you have position thats fine.
  • eselspiel Posts: 115Subscriber
    CatharinaNilsson said

    Hand 1- When you say bet more, are you talking $30 or a pot size bet? Also I should have explained further when I said he is out to get me. By this I mean that he would call hands most normal people might not. This player does not get a ton of value out of hands, yet he is not the type to make a big bluff.

    The limper is still in the hand when you bet. In immediate odds, you're offering the villian almost 3 to 1 and the limper is getting almost 4 to 1 - making it correct for him to overcall with a lot of junk. I'd be betting like $35 to $40.

    I know its a home game but is there anyway to change seats so this guy doesn't have position on you?
  • phatsuit Posts: 26Member
    eselspiel said
    CatharinaNilsson said

    Hand 1- When you say bet more, are you talking $30 or a pot size bet? Also I should have explained further when I said he is out to get me. By this I mean that he would call hands most normal people might not. This player does not get a ton of value out of hands, yet he is not the type to make a big bluff.

    The limper is still in the hand when you bet. In immediate odds, you're offering the villian almost 3 to 1 and the limper is getting almost 4 to 1 - making it correct for him to overcall with a lot of junk. I'd be betting like $35 to $40.

    I know its a home game but is there anyway to change seats so this guy doesn't have position on you?
    No way I can change seats....
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